Did Adam And Eve Have Children In The Garden
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| GINOLJC, to all. The book of Genesis set the stage for some mysteries to be understood, but at the same time, create some mysteries that are not understood. I would like to get your opinion, and, or, your thoughts on few of these, what I call mysteries in the creation account. I totally believe that God created two humans, a male, and a female, in the beginning. and from these two people, all of humanity came. but yet, when I read in Genesis chapter 4 of other people beside Adam, Eve, and now, only Cain. I have to ask, who are these other people, who might slay Cain if they found him. I look at Adam, and Seth descendants , but the time frame of God dialogue with Cain after he killed his brother Abel did not fit. because Cain was afraid of someone finding him, and possibly killing him, at the present time. so the time frame don't work. and two, Cain found a wife, in the land of nod, not in the current area where he was at that time. I also eliminated Adam possible descendants , which is in Seth . I base this on Genesis 5:3,4 & 5 , and backed up by 1 Chronicles 1:1 -4. here is the dilemma. if there was only two people, where did the other people come from?. I have my views, but I would like to hear yours. and maybe, just maybe we can get some understanding out of this very important account of Genisis. here are the two questions. #1. "Did the Adam's have Children while they was still in the garden , before their fall". if so, post your scripture to this fact. this just might answer the Cain wife question. #2. "Where did Cain wife really come from, and who was she?". post your scriptures to this fact also. remember, we're dealing with the facts according to the scriptures only. no outside reference, unless directly addressing a scripture in the Genesis account. I believe that these two question are directly related to each other, and maybe, just maybe, if proven correct, answer the age old questions, "where did Cain really get his wife from, and who she is". and if proven correct, by scripture. many other pressing, and unknown questions, can be answered also. but the first question goes against, quote unquote, bible, or men tradition. I guess by now, many of you know, that I'm not a traditionist, (smile). especially when it comes to man assessment of the bible . I totally believe God, PERIOD. and I believe that God have given us the answers to these questions, and many more, right in the Genesis account it self. only if we ask the right question, and seek them out. so lets get started. May God bless. Last edited by 101c; 03-02-2014 at 12:42 PM.. |
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| in reference to question #1. was there other people on the planet beside Adam an Eve?, or was these other people descendant of Adam and Eve before the fall. I believe that these other peoples are their children that they had in the garden before their fall. I have 4 reason for this. A. in Genesis 1:28 "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth " . God gave a command to the man and the woman. to " Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it ". there are four commands to the man and woman in this verse alone. but I will zero in on the " Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth ". here I believe the man and the woman did what our God commanded them to do, " multiply ". the procreation of children . this command was before the fall. and I believe they did, base on the following answers. B. Genesis 2:24 "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh " . why put this statement in here at this particular time. who was there to leave from?.and why say leave father and mother, if there was no human father and mother to leave from, at that time?. one do not call someone father and mother unless that have children. the Garden was man and the woman home. and when children grow up they leave HOME, from their father and mother, and start, or replenish their own. just as we do today, well as least most do. that word "replenish", is old English word, meaning to plenish, by producing, as in RE-producing. and as one produce, you become a reproducer, hence RE-plenish. so I believe that they did. C. Genesis 3:16 "Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee " . HOLD IT, " multiply thy sorrow and thy conception ". question, how can one multiply something, unless it have already happen. in other words, how can God greatly multiply sorrow , and conception, if she have not already had conception. one cannot multiply nothing by, or from nothing. example, if I was in my car setting still, I cannot increase my speed until I first start to move. I can't increase speed setting still, I must first be moving, (meaning already have speed), and then I can increase my seep. so to increase conception, one first must already have had conception to increase it. D. but to me , the number 1 dead giveaway, showing that she had children in the Garden is in her, PERSONAL NAME , "EVE". lets see it. Genesis 3:20 "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living " . her name tells it all. first, no one call anyone MOTHER, unless she have, or had children. second. Adam said she was the mother. "was", is a PAST TENSE designation, indicative of the time Adam made the statement. why use "was" the mother. because it set up the next part that describe her name. " she was the mother of all living ". ALL LIVING, yes, because, now she have died. not physically. but remember what God said?. Listen, Genesis 2:17 "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die " . when she ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, she died, Spiritually, or a separation from the LIFE GIVENING SPIRIT. all the children she had in the garden was Spiritually alive to God. but now every child she have is spiritually DEAD to God. this is why the Christ is to come. which God promise to restore life back to man. when he came in flesh as a man to regenerate, restore that LIFE giving spirit back to man, which he did, and, as stated in 1 Corinthians 15:45 "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit . 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven " . so with these scriptures, it clearly tells me that they had children in the Garden before the fall. and it also answers other question, like, "where did Cain get his wife?. and who is Melchizedek , and it eliminates the ERROR in angels mating with earthly women and bearing Giants. if this is correct. it changes many superstitio n some Christians might have. this is not set in stone, but it will give us something to think about. May God bless. |
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| Quote: "Did the Adam's have Children in the Garden" No but outside the garden they did have .. Josephus says they had 33 sons 23 daughters The Adam's Family |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by Atkutuq No but outside the garden they did have .. Josephus says they had 33 sons 23 daughters The Adam's Family True, (smile). THE ADAM FAMILY, that's a good one. and thanks for the response. |
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| lets look at it this way. when Cain killed Abel. there was already people existing. for Cain was afraid of being killed himself. so I cannot buy the notion that it was later on thru Seth these was the other people. if one would note, Seth was not even born yet. and Adam and Eve had more, supposedly after Seth, which I question. |
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| Cain wife was a wild human animal not from the image of God , which blows holes in the seven solar day creation interpretation story .....So Adam and Eve were similar to humans but created from God like Jesus was created and became a living soul .... Adam did not have any children in the garden as Eve was created before they went to the garden , where God removed them from the garden before Cain and Abel were born |
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| It is obvious Cain married one of his relatives! |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by hljc Cain wife was a wild human animal not from the image of God , which blows holes in the seven solar day creation interpretation story .....So Adam and Eve were similar to humans but created from God like Jesus was created and became a living soul .... Adam did not have any children in the garden as Eve was created before they went to the garden , where God removed them from the garden before Cain and Abel were born thanks for your response, but I must disagree on these basis, #1. if Cain wife was a wild human, where did she come from. because Adam and Eve is the source of all humanity. #2. are you saying that their was another creation, if so based on what evidence?. remember in the OP, I said scripture base, unless addressing a Genesis scripture directly. #3. I agree on the 6 solar day. but not on another human creation. but that's interesting. #4. Jesus was Born. Adam and Eve was NOT BORN, BUT MADE. #5. Genesis 2:8 "And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed " . Genesis 2:15 "And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it " .Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him " . this was after he was in the Garden, so your point as to Adam or Eve outside the Garden is moot. Genesis 2:21 "And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man " . so all of this took place inside the Garden according to genesis chapter 2. so the account put both of them inside the garden. |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by Atkutuq It is obvious Cain married one of his relatives! I agree with you totally 100%. but which relatives, not the one that came outside the garden. that's the dilemma. there is no way he married any of his relatives by Seth. |
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| Quote: Originally Posted by 101c I agree with you totally 100%. but which relatives, not the one that came outside the garden. that's the dilemma. there is no way he married any of his relatives by Seth. ...either Cain married a "woman" of angelic origin, or Cain married one of his sisters who was born outside the garden...both are scriptural assumptions. There were no live births in The Garden of Eden...this is a scriptural fact. |
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